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Started by Bearfax • 2y ago
Noted on your trailers SciFiTV that two wonderful worlds of my childhood are coming to film. I'm referring here to the bizarre experiences of the the junior French reporter Tin Tin and the Burroughs' classic Mars novel John Carter of Mars (just titled John Carter for the movie). Both stories are well over 60 years old but were the stuff read by children in that world of yesteryear. Hope they are done respectfully.
Or C02 which naturally makes up most of the atmosphere. same thing from volcanoes, one volcano in 1 year emits more than the entire human race has made artificially for 2,000 years.
On a net basis, according to the IPCC's own numbers, Australia doesn't have any emissions of CO2 at all - either in absolute or per capita terms. funny that we are actually carbon negative on their own numbers for working it out.
The real cause is overpopulation if anything, consuming more Forrests for farms and housing, needing more power, more everything. world poplutu=ion in 50 years will be 8-9 Billion, 100 years 15 billion. what is needed to support them. Will a carbon tax fix it? goverment want more population they can collect more money, if if they won't fit in.
Food, in australia the expanding coastal cities are removing all the good farm land, hard to grow stuff in the desert.
after all the forest are gone to make room for 15 billion people and animals to support them, what will we breath then.
Recent data show we are now cooling.
What renewable energy is there? Nothing reliable that can replace current power needs on an expanding scale.
Stop population increases, look after what we have. damn thier is no money in that is their, too logical. easier to take money for carbon but give some back. What about stop coal exports if your so worried about that, oh thats money isn't it, seems to be all money = tax...
Sorry couldn't stop was just going to leave it at 'carbon tax' lol ( i can make pages of opposing view points to consider)
I need some warming, its cold and wet....
I'm joining the bonobo's and I'm bringing my carrots!
Can still have fun, just not 15 billion of them.
can't get out the front door too many people.
Besides, we have to be able to get over this world wide obese epidemic before we need to start stressing about population expansion. Who needs mother nature to wipe us out, we do a good enough job of it on our own.
I think there may be a problem facing us.
Just another point. Official estimates regarding the amount of oil reserves left suggest between 800 and 1400 billion barrels. Sounds a lot but we use it at a rate of about 85-90 million barrels a day...thats over 30 billion barrels a years. At that rate we have between 30-55 years of oil left. However remember that China, India and Brazil are increasing usage significantly so the amount left may only last us 15-30 years (and shortages will come well before that time). Coal oil is too expensive, ethanol oil from plants only covers a small percentage and takes away from food production. Fission power stations remain a questionable alternative (see Japan) and the potential for safe Fusion power is reportedly 30 years away yet. We need some other form of power quick or its back to pre 19th century lifetsyles and pre 19th century populations.
Any comments?
didn't we just have our airways closed, last year all the northern hemisphere?
To be honest I think the "carbon tax" is a sham - "mother nature" seems far more capable damaging and repairing the planet than humans ever will be. After all - it's suvived 4.5 billion years so far. I'm not saying we shouldn't be careful about natural resources or certain forms of pollution but this tax is merely a revenue raising trick. I laugh everytime I hear Julia say "Under this taxing system, everyone will have more money in their pockets" haha - what a contradiction!
Bearfax the problem I have with researchers in this area is trying to decide who is in fact right. Is this a natural path our earth normally takes - and previously without us here - has not been such an issue, or is it something we have helped along by our consumptive ways? There are so many groups that argue on both sides it is hard to work out who is correct. But logically I can't see how all the raping of the earth that we do.....how it couldn't have a negative impact. The issue we now face really regardless of how we got here is what do we do about it. I feel if we don't start acting now, then we may leave it too late, as you all well know, it is easier to adjust to a (this is hypothetically speaking not the true values) $1 initial per week carbon tax as opposed to the potential $10 a week carbon tax we may be hit with in 5 or 10 years time when we do start to act and as per usual politics they will always try and push this issue back as far as they can until they have to do something about it. The longer we leave it the more likely that irreversible damage will be done. If we can live sustainably with this irreversible damage then fine, if we can't however then we need to act. I always feel doing things in small steps is better for all than all of a sudden a huge turn about face. People are resistant to change at the best of times, but the bigger then change the more conflict it will cause. I'm not sure about all the other stuff Julia says, but I will give her this. While it will initially be a bit tough, Australia is in a good spot to start initiating changes and we will never be in a better position to do it. If we wait and our country falls into a recession in the coming years, imagine trying to intiate this program then....keeping in mind that when we may be forced to do it may not be as good a time as when we could choose to do it.
Well that's my 5 cents worth!
Now that I'm paying flood levy tax in each pay, what's another one....i.e. carbon tax. Maybe this is a sly way to stop our obesity epidemic. Studies have shown when things are tightly regulated i.e. after wars with food coupons no access to staples etc, diabetes and overweight issues decline! Maybe after our long endulgence with a plenty, we need to experience some restrictions to redevelop our appreciate for the basics life has to offer.....hmmmmmmmmmmmmm